huliia: thechromaticscale: I didn’t use references, except for Violet because I didn’t know her 2D. Ironically, telling people that I didn’t want to draw toons for the rest of my life made me want to draw toons. Personally, I find the Western styles much more user-friendly than my current style, for which I have to be very precise about everything. If I drew like this regularly, I think I would be much more prolific, at least in quantity. In before I inadvertently sound like a self-important prick, rant ahead:  For those of you who so brazenly say that you “grew out of anime” as if you were too good for it, is it because the style couldn’t work for you, or is it because you couldn’t make that style work for you, or is it a bit of both? I know a lot of artists who acknowledge the reasons behind their transition, and that’s why they can respect decent anime art without discrediting the artist just because they draw in a stigmatized style. For this, thank you kindly, from the bottom of my heart, for you are respectful fellow artists and human beings. You rarely (if ever) see people approaching Western cartoonists and asking if they considered switching to “anime” style — so why should anime artists expect for people to do vice versa? Since when was there a hierarchy of styles? I understand that versatility and a vast repertoire are necessities for a competent artist, but why should anime artists have to prove that they can also draw Western cartoons to justify or legitimize their preference, and not vice versa? Although I speak on behalf of anime, this also goes for other styles and genres such as realism and various styles of painting. I’m sure that said cartoonists suffer the same discrimination from realists, impressionists, vice versa, etc. It’s really no skin off your back if someone else can’t do what you can, is it? Even though the aforementioned question from the Anon probably wasn’t meant to undermine my preferences as an artist, I had to get this off my chest sooner or later. Thanks for reading. PS: I know that the very self-entitled One-Trick-Pony anime artists will reblog this in a vain effort to vindicate themselves; please know that such redemption will not be obtained.  coooooool stuff. I’ll just throw my hat into the ring here since I have a the hilarious predicament of starting off as drawing anime but then I got to high school and I was really freaked out by the other anime fans at my school so I kinda distanced myself from that style and drawing in general and eventually tried to come back with a more Western style. Then I stopped trying to make my style become anything and now I’m back to being an anime artist (◡‿◡✿) To be perfectly honest, people pay way too much attention to how faces are drawn, which is understandable, but frustrating. But I mean the line between “Western” and “anime” and “hybrid” is so terrible because it’s like a Litmus test on just how big you draw eyes and if you can draw a not tiny nose how the face is shaped. I mean if you asked all the artists on the internet to draw a body but with no face it’s not so nearly easy to tell who’s more western or more anime and to be honest it’ll be really disappointing because artists you mentally checked off as good maybe not be so much once they draw something without a head. For me I’ll forgive a kind of derp/simple looking face for qualities that I think are way more important, which is a good articulation of body and form, and line quality, color, etc etc. But if something has a pretty uguuu anime face or even a prettily drawn Western face but the rest if flat and lifeless I’ll scroll right past. I mean it’s just aesthetics vs. technique. A lot of the times I feel as if the average internet art appreciator ignores the ability and skill of an artist to articulate what they want to draw and just pay attention to how something is drawn. I always thought part of being a successful artist is training your skill and training your taste. I’m not surprised I round back to being an anime artist because in the end, my aesthetic appreciations always stayed the same. People mold their art to what they believe is aesthetically pleasing right? Anyway, what I mean to say, and at this point is probably redundant, is that I think style is way more than the choices you make when you draw a person, and those choices are not really that important in getting your audience to appreciate work. Style has a lot to do also with how you draw physically. Some people draw assertively, and some people draw with more control; I mean I never close up any shape I draw while Judy above is clearly different and she’s a tighter artist than I am. If we both try to draw the same “style” it wouldn’t look the same and that’s what I’m trying to drive home is that in the I think a more important part of this “Western” vs. “Anime” brouhaha is moving past “I like big shiny eyes and cute things” to “I like, strong, curvy, lines, and character art where the people have physical weight to them.” It’ll make the choice between Western or anime a whole lot less relevant, because I can get you book of Pixar concept art, or I can give you a Streetfighter artbook. I mean for me I like smooth 3D shapes and body curves that are more realistic and muscular, where the line direction is exaggerated, but not the actual shape of the body, but I also like economic line art and I make these my goals when I draw. I don’t really pay much more attention to the face and I don’t think you should in my art either. It’s been kind of a maturity thing for me to be honest. I grew up thinking really cute styles like Takeuchi and Donbo were like the epitome of beautiful drawings and then I grew older and I started reading French comics where most of the time the characters have dots for eyes and giant noses and then I when I graduated high school I really drew a lot of influences from Tezuka, Toryima, and Otomo, which I know as a kid were styles that I thought were ugly. Now at this point in my development I honestly think everyone one of the above (except maybe Donbo… lol) are all great. I mean the Sailor Moon anime still surprises me every time because I spent so much time as a kid thinking wow everyone is so pretty but today I watch and it’s like, wow those are some great proportions and clothes wow look at those lines and silhouettes ahh wow

huliia:

thechromaticscale:

I didn’t use references, except for Violet because I didn’t know her 2D.

Ironically, telling people that I didn’t want to draw toons for the rest of my life made me want to draw toons. Personally, I find the Western styles much more user-friendly than my current style, for which I have to be very precise about everything. If I drew like this regularly, I think I would be much more prolific, at least in quantity.

In before I inadvertently sound like a self-important prick, rant ahead: 

For those of you who so brazenly say that you “grew out of anime” as if you were too good for it, is it because the style couldn’t work for you, or is it because you couldn’t make that style work for you, or is it a bit of both? I know a lot of artists who acknowledge the reasons behind their transition, and that’s why they can respect decent anime art without discrediting the artist just because they draw in a stigmatized style. For this, thank you kindly, from the bottom of my heart, for you are respectful fellow artists and human beings.

You rarely (if ever) see people approaching Western cartoonists and asking if they considered switching to “anime” style — so why should anime artists expect for people to do vice versa? Since when was there a hierarchy of styles? I understand that versatility and a vast repertoire are necessities for a competent artist, but why should anime artists have to prove that they can also draw Western cartoons to justify or legitimize their preference, and not vice versa?

Although I speak on behalf of anime, this also goes for other styles and genres such as realism and various styles of painting. I’m sure that said cartoonists suffer the same discrimination from realists, impressionists, vice versa, etc. It’s really no skin off your back if someone else can’t do what you can, is it?

Even though the aforementioned question from the Anon probably wasn’t meant to undermine my preferences as an artist, I had to get this off my chest sooner or later. Thanks for reading.

PS: I know that the very self-entitled One-Trick-Pony anime artists will reblog this in a vain effort to vindicate themselves; please know that such redemption will not be obtained. 

coooooool stuff. I’ll just throw my hat into the ring here since I have a the hilarious predicament of starting off as drawing anime but then I got to high school and I was really freaked out by the other anime fans at my school so I kinda distanced myself from that style and drawing in general and eventually tried to come back with a more Western style. Then I stopped trying to make my style become anything and now I’m back to being an anime artist (◡‿◡✿)

To be perfectly honest, people pay way too much attention to how faces are drawn, which is understandable, but frustrating. But I mean the line between “Western” and “anime” and “hybrid” is so terrible because it’s like a Litmus test on just how big you draw eyes and if you can draw a not tiny nose how the face is shaped. I mean if you asked all the artists on the internet to draw a body but with no face it’s not so nearly easy to tell who’s more western or more anime and to be honest it’ll be really disappointing because artists you mentally checked off as good maybe not be so much once they draw something without a head. For me I’ll forgive a kind of derp/simple looking face for qualities that I think are way more important, which is a good articulation of body and form, and line quality, color, etc etc. But if something has a pretty uguuu anime face or even a prettily drawn Western face but the rest if flat and lifeless I’ll scroll right past. I mean it’s just aesthetics vs. technique. A lot of the times I feel as if the average internet art appreciator ignores the ability and skill of an artist to articulate what they want to draw and just pay attention to how something is drawn. I always thought part of being a successful artist is training your skill and training your taste. I’m not surprised I round back to being an anime artist because in the end, my aesthetic appreciations always stayed the same. People mold their art to what they believe is aesthetically pleasing right? Anyway, what I mean to say, and at this point is probably redundant, is that I think style is way more than the choices you make when you draw a person, and those choices are not really that important in getting your audience to appreciate work. Style has a lot to do also with how you draw physically. Some people draw assertively, and some people draw with more control; I mean I never close up any shape I draw while Judy above is clearly different and she’s a tighter artist than I am. If we both try to draw the same “style” it wouldn’t look the same and that’s what I’m trying to drive home is that in the I think a more important part of this “Western” vs. “Anime” brouhaha is moving past “I like big shiny eyes and cute things” to “I like, strong, curvy, lines, and character art where the people have physical weight to them.” It’ll make the choice between Western or anime a whole lot less relevant, because I can get you book of Pixar concept art, or I can give you a Streetfighter artbook. I mean for me I like smooth 3D shapes and body curves that are more realistic and muscular, where the line direction is exaggerated, but not the actual shape of the body, but I also like economic line art and I make these my goals when I draw. I don’t really pay much more attention to the face and I don’t think you should in my art either.

It’s been kind of a maturity thing for me to be honest. I grew up thinking really cute styles like Takeuchi and Donbo were like the epitome of beautiful drawings and then I grew older and I started reading French comics where most of the time the characters have dots for eyes and giant noses and then I when I graduated high school I really drew a lot of influences from Tezuka, Toryima, and Otomo, which I know as a kid were styles that I thought were ugly. Now at this point in my development I honestly think everyone one of the above (except maybe Donbo… lol) are all great. I mean the Sailor Moon anime still surprises me every time because I spent so much time as a kid thinking wow everyone is so pretty but today I watch and it’s like, wow those are some great proportions and clothes wow look at those lines and silhouettes ahh wow

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  • December 9
  • , 2011
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    holy crap i love you.
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    Oh man, this, all of my this. What’s funny is that for the longest time I never even watched anime. Yet people commented...
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    actually started...drawing Disney and Looney Tunes characters
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    All of this. I have one drawing class in my program right now and it just completely maddens and saddens me how anime is...
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    many reasons. /respect ;__; P.S. LAST SUB TEXT = FOREVER AMAZING.